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Reflow oven and Solder paste?

RogerClark Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:20 pm

Hi Guys,

I’m gearing up to produce some SMD boards, and would be interested to get any recommendations of where to get solder paste.

I bought some from AliExpress a while ago, but I cant track down its chemical tin to lead ratio.

I’m going to buy some paste locally, but at $12 for 15g, I suspect that I can get a better deal online at AliExpress.

However I’m not sure if any of the paste on AliExpress is any good.

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jcw Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:52 pm

Out of curiosity: what size PCBs / panels do you want to be able to handle?

RogerClark Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:21 pm

Probably only max 10cm x 10cm

mrburnette Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:30 am

@Roger,

It has been a few years since I have worked with thermocouples, but I designed the dual-EGT monitor for a Rotax engine in a friend’s Europa experimental aircraft. Sensors made for EGT are serious, such as:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EGT-Thermocoupl … 0938569825
And have a nice metalic braid/cover.

You can often find these at custom automotive parts shops.

Ray

RogerClark Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:01 am

Thanks Ray.

I did notice some others like that, but the internal arrangement in the oven seems to be that the thermocouple end gets dangled into the middle of the oven, ie hangs down about 5cm, and if I used anything but probe or the type they used, then the end of the thermocouple would be a lot closer to the top of the oven, and the temperatures probably read a lot higher than where the PCB is at the bottom.

I think my best bet would be to go for the long probe type and stick it in as far as I can manage, without fouling the PCB.

i.e Its unlikely I’m going to be soldering a PCB that has components higher than about 1/2 inch or 1 inch at the most, so it probably makes sense to get the probes as low as possible.

mrburnette Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:41 am

RogerClark wrote:Actually

It looks like its worth me getting a 2 of these to test, as they look similar to the ones you linked to

RogerClark Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:28 am

Thanks Ray

I’ll take a look, but I”m not sure if any of the eBay vendors have that information.

I’ve already ordered a variety of thermocouples last weekend; mainly some of the simple ones with what looks like blob of solder (I know its not solder) on the end. They were relatively cheap, so I thought it was worth a gamble.

But its going to take a few weeks before they arrive.

mrburnette Sun Nov 01, 2015 2:22 pm

RogerClark wrote:
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ChriD Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:56 pm

RogerClark wrote:In case anyone is vaguely interested

I eventually coded a I2C slave to interface with the Maxim thermocouple chips (which are SPI) using an Arduino Pro mini.

ChriD Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:58 pm

RogerClark wrote:In case anyone is vaguely interested

I eventually coded a I2C slave to interface with the Maxim thermocouple chips (which are SPI) using an Arduino Pro mini.

RogerClark Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:22 am

Sorry @ChriD

I ended up just using an Arduino Pro mini as it was easier.

I don’t have time at the moment to merge the old I2C Slave code with the existing code, but you could take a look to see how similar the version with the slave functionality is, to the current code

zmemw16 Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:37 pm

i was browsing back for some other reason, read about you using long probes.

thought 5 or 6mm wire mesh, 19-25mm up from board, and use the wire ones for any points of interest?
ok first thoughts were peg board, metal, inertia, heavy duty, wire coat hangers, weaving, weave probe wire to ‘fix’ position

srp

mrmonteith Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:18 pm

mrburnette wrote:@Roger,

It has been a few years since I have worked with thermocouples, but I designed the dual-EGT monitor for a Rotax engine in a friend’s Europa experimental aircraft. Sensors made for EGT are serious, such as:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EGT-Thermocoupl … 0938569825
And have a nice metalic braid/cover.

You can often find these at custom automotive parts shops.

Ray

RogerClark Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:26 pm

I now have various new probes, but I dont have time to install and test them

Perhaps I may get time over the Christmas holidays

stm32arduinoer Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:12 am

RogerClark wrote:Sorry @ChriD

I ended up just using an Arduino Pro mini as it was easier.

I don’t have time at the moment to merge the old I2C Slave code with the existing code, but you could take a look to see how similar the version with the slave functionality is, to the current code

stm32arduinoer Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:23 am

RogerClark wrote:Sorry @ChriD

I ended up just using an Arduino Pro mini as it was easier.

I don’t have time at the moment to merge the old I2C Slave code with the existing code, but you could take a look to see how similar the version with the slave functionality is, to the current code

RogerClark Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:45 am

It was easier for me to use an AVR Arduino Pro Mini, as I2C slave works (if you modify the AVR core a little)

So.. I didnt use the STM32 for this.

stm32arduinoer Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:52 am

RogerClark wrote:It was easier for me to use an AVR Arduino Pro Mini, as I2C slave works (if you modify the AVR core a little)

So.. I didnt use the STM32 for this.

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